7 Reasons Ben Shapiro Is So Dominant In Debates

7 Reasons Ben Shapiro Is So Dominant In Debates

Ben shapiro is one of the most famous and skilled political debaters out there and even if you’re not into politics his arguments are fun to watch. In this video I want to explore why Ben is so talented in debates. Specifically, I’m gonna give you seven techniques that you can use no matter what side of an argument you represent, even if you’re on the wrong side Three caveats before we begin: First, I am NOT saying that Ben is right or wrong on any of these points. What I’m gonna discuss are some of the rhetorical devices he employs that can be persuasive even if they aren’t always logically foolproof. No matter where you fall in these issues, there’s a lot to be learned from Ben’s style of debate. Second, you probably don’t want to focus on debating in your interpersonal relationships because the goal of debate is quite different than the goal of most relationships. -or you’re debating somebody on a stage in which case your goal is basically to humiliate that person as badly as possible. And third, Ben obviously does quite a bit of research which is really tough to combat without figures of your own. -If you’re, if you’re richer you tend to be married longer on average people who are poor tend to get divorce Where did you get that, um, statistic? -Census Bureau Now, research is necessary but I’m more interested in the tactical side of the debate rather than the prep so I won’t go any further into it. Let’s begin then with Ben’s defensive debate tactics starting with catching non- arguments and that’s because not everything that sounds persuasive actually constitutes a valid argument. For instance, when you hear that nine out of ten fill-in-the-blanks believe something that doesn’t necessarily prove a point. That is an argument from authority and, though it might be compelling, more evidence is required to be deemed conclusive. So when people lean on authority in arguments, Ben knows to call them out on it, like in this example: We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons. That was Ronald Reagan. -Okay, so now I can disagree with Ronald Reagan. You keep front of the great right-wing presidents of modern times agreed with me -So? Another common debate tactic that maybe isn’t done on purpose and doesn’t constitute a valid argument is getting emotional, particularly when the other person gets upset or offended. Now when Piers Morgan did that, Ben wisely didn’t engage him because simply being offended doesn’t prove anything. How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of the children that died there, how dare you. -I’ve seen you do it repeatedly, Piers. Like I say, how dare you -Well, I mean, you can keep saying that but you’ve done it repeatedly. What you do, and I’ve seen you do it on the program. The late Christopher Hitchens put this same idea rather bluntly: If someone tells me that I’ve hurt their feelings, I say: well, I’m still waiting to hear what your point is. Now you don’t necessarily need to be that abrupt, but pointing out that a point needs something beyond simple emotion in order to make it valid can make other debaters flustered and from there you can segue into the third defensive tactic that we are covering in this video, which is pushing for specifics. People often hold very broad opinions, very strongly, without necessarily being able to articulate what they mean concretely, and of course this happens on all sides of the political spectrum. So when Ben is grappling with a very broad, spanning charge, he takes the necessary first step of pushing that other person to provide specific examples. -I know what the Republican beliefs are I mean, you’re a young guy, but you certainly remember two years back when their beliefs were completely the opposite of what they are now. -But which ones, which ones? -Free trade. This is absolutely critical do not get wrapped up in defending generalized statements even if you don’t like them, because if any sort of blanket label is asserted against your position or it’s large institutions that are being branded one way or another, if you try to defend against that single phrase you are already buying into an argument You don’t understand and that would be absurd So instead, push the other person to relate exactly what they mean specifically, like in this example: We’ve been talking about. When you say institutional racism, it’s too broad. You at least have to name me the institution. Which one is the racist one? Which institution is racist? Tell me what you –like — so we can fight it– seriously– so we can fight it together Just– I want to be on your side. I do. I want to fight racists. I think race again I think racism is — I think racist — racist behaviour is evil. I want to fight it with you, but I can’t fight it if you’re not if you’re not showing me what it is Similarly and lastly on the defensive side, Ben knows his arguments inside and out so he doesn’t get sucked into defending points that his argument doesn’t require. For instance, in this next clip Ben is talking about how Trump will say outrageous things, knowing that it sets the media ablaze and his point is that Trump knows what he’s doing and he does it on purpose in order to control the news cycle Now when Don Lemon responds saying the Trump shouldn’t be doing that, Ben doesn’t bother defending the morality of his actions. He’s only talking about the purpose of them. -says some things that are outrageous like people in the media aren’t patriotic, knowing that people in the media are immediately going to turn it up to 12 on the Richter scale. But Ben, don’t you think he should be truthful in his comments even if he’s even if he’s funny and if you give them any — shouldn’t he be truthful and he wasn’t. Of course and I think that this is where the media — here’s my advice to people in the media. Now recognizing that you can and should agree at points with the person that you’re debating seems obvious but it can be especially hard to do when people insult you a general rule of thumb is that if the other person winds up attacking you you were actually winning the debate. So Ben usually doesn’t get sucked into defending his own honor and he shows a great example of that here: Paul did a hit piece and in it writer Jane Coaston says you have hollow bravery, calls your campus speeches shadowboxing and if you wanted to be genuinely brave, you’d challenge quote: Some of the wrongheaded ideas held by your right-wing fans How do you respond to that? Number one: I’ve never really attributed bravery to myself I don’t think that it’s brave to walk on a campus and talk to kids, I think it’s brave to be a member of the military. I think it’s brave to be a cop I think it’s great to be a firefighter. I don’t think it’s brave for me to walk with a security team at my side onto a stage. If I thought that I was gonna get shot and murdered, then I probably wouldn’t do it. So I don’t consider myself part of that group anyway Then wisely doesn’t bother defending his own bravery and instead sticks to the points that he knows are strongest to his argument and that takes us to Ben’s Offensive Strategies. One of the big ways that I see him stump his opponents is through the use of snuck premises. Essentially, you introduce the exact point of contention as a given and that’s through the clever use of language. Now, this isn’t to pick on Ben because we all do this from time to time. So first off, see if you can find the snuck premise in this next case: -from planned parenthood. As you may have noticed, I’m mostly against abortion. If you wanna go to Planned Parenthood and get a contraceptive, go for it. I don’t care. I do care when you start killing babies. This is a problem for me. Again, a snug premise introduces a contended point as a given. So what counts as a snug premise shifts with each position of each person involved in a debate now in the context of the abortion debate: pro-choice versus pro-life, what is the snug premise that Ben just said? Here it would be the words: “kill babies”. This entire debate hinges on the personhood of the baby/fetus and using the word baby implies personhood. So with that word, Ben is able to sneak in a premise that most of his opponents would probably disagree with but he does it in a way that they don’t notice, so they are stuck, coming to the same conclusion that he does. Here’s another example, this time in a debate over the morality of socialism communism and other economic models: -income inequality in the United States is also quite high, right? There are people who are Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos and then there’s the the local checker at your grocery store. But if the local checker your grocery store is getting richer then it seems to me they have nothing particularly to complain about in how the economy is operating. They don’t have a right to Jeff Bezos’ money They don’t have a right to Bill Gates’ money any more than Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos has a right to their money. What is the snuck premise in this case? It would be the idea that it is their money. A socialist or a communist might see the money that an owner of the means of production has, aka another rich person, as being stolen, so it wouldn’t be their money in the minds of a socialist or a communist. But when Ben assumes the idea that it is their money, he makes a point that again his opponents might find disagreeable but they won’t really know where to poke the hole, because they adopted his premise as soon as he said it. Now in my experience, most debates are won or lost on snuck premises. In concealing the steps we take to arrive at our conclusions, we can get there without the other person knowing exactly how they disagree with us, but still being stuck. So if you want to win cheaply, without having your ideas challenged, this is an excellent tactic, that is, how you can win a debate even if you’re wrong. But to the degree that you can catch yourself, you’re usually better off avoiding this and it’s usually more insightful and better for the relationship to bolster the opposition side, as we discuss in our video on Jordan Peterson, which I will link to below. Again, not to pick on Ben, just pointing this out as an example. I’m going to leave this for now and move to another effective rhetorical tool that I see from Ben. It’s moving from the abstract to the concrete, and it looks like this: I think that focusing on poverty is a good thing to do. I think focusing on income inequality is not a good thing to do because there’s no correlation between income inequality and relative rates of poverty, right, there’s tremendous income inequality in a lot of places on Planet Earth, in fact in all places on Planet Earth. If you go to Sudan, there’s gonna be a rich warlord there and then there are gonna people living on six dollars a year. This works because the specific example seems to prove the broader point that preceded it, even though a single example cannot prove a rule. It is useful shorthand for persuasion and explanation. I do this all the time with the examples that I give you in these videos- it’s very very common. And when you add an element of humor to the specific piece that you are saying it makes it even more persuasive because people can be so wrapped up in laughing, that they don’t necessarily evaluate if they disagree with the point that you made. -The people who are currently acting in a criminal fashion in the drug war aren’t going to be out acting as model citizens, as a general rule. A lot of those people are going to be committing other crimes because this has been the history of the United States: when you make a substance illegal, the people who are criminals were criminals before and they’re criminals after. Al Capone was not going to turn into a banker after prohibition ended. And the final piece for this video, at least, is that you want to emphasize the conditions under which you would agree with your opponent. What evidence would you need? Now we previously saw Ben do this with regards to institutional racism in a previous clip: -racist behavior is evil. I want to fight it with you But I can’t fight it if you’re not if you’re not showing me what it is. Here he is talking about Trump’s impeachment and the Muller investigations: [Applause] Dude, I’m happy to wait for the Muller indictments if they come down and they target Trump. I’m happy to see him impeached but I need to see evidence. Where’s the evidence? just throw it in the trash. And if he throws it in the trash or quashes the Mueller investigation then yes impeachment should be on the table. Thank you Ben. When done in good faith, this is a really admirable way to build consensus and settle a debate, but since I said that this video was gonna have elements of how to win even if you’re wrong, this can also be used as a smokescreen to make your opponent lose sight of a more effective way to win an argument and instead focus on giving you the evidence that you asked for. By the way I am NOT saying that that is what Ben is doing here. I’m just saying that when you outline the conditions of what it would take for you to reverse your position, it can work as a diversionary tactic. So, there you have it, seven reasons that Ben Shapiro is so difficult to best in the debate and seven ways that you can win even if you’re wrong.

100 thoughts on “7 Reasons Ben Shapiro Is So Dominant In Debates

  1. There's one debate the Ben Shapiro would lose.
    And that is if he would debate me about the fact that his Nations Messiah was Jesus Christ

  2. How can "killing babies" be a snuck argument? The only sneaking I see is by those who introduce personhood as 1) something independent of being human and 2) something if missing gives liberty to kill. Both of these notions deserve all the push back they get. Those are ideas dependent on sneaking and uncritical thought. "Killing babies" does not sneakily humanize the unborn. It accurately humanizes them.

  3. This guy really has no idea what he's talking about. "Snuck premise"? You mean the facts as you see them? It's also called your opinion, or the position you're defending?

  4. regarding snuck premises: socialism is not an 'economical model' but a collectivist ideology that has killed dozens of millions in the 20th century. so calling it an 'economical model' is a euphemism at best.

  5. he's not famous, he is an intellectual REPROBATE.. he hates Jesus Christ, hates the gospel, hates Gods truth.. and then wants to frame the left as the key enemy while his Jewish demons go unanswered? NICE TRY but it won't work.. we are waking up to this devils mouthism, he's just another talking head

  6. BBC host: asks simple question.
    Been Shapiro: I can't do this, I LITERALLY can't even.
    Conservatives: Hahaha he showed that snowflake, I'll tell you hwat!

  7. Best way to win a debate: have your co-workers provide information for you on a list for you to read from in an argument.

  8. He's dominant in debates because he debates the intellectual bottom of the barrel, teenage socialists who don't even know what they're talking about.

  9. I like how you outline some of the socialist views during the "snuck premise" section. Now they seem even more reprehensible.

  10. Of course, the number 1 reason Ben wins debates is because he has the facts, all the facts, on the topic he's speaking about.  Hard to dispute facts.  Facts don't care about your feelings. Truth is truth.  Emotion and opinion are not.  Period. Next.

  11. Because he ignores what the opponent says and then talks over them loud and fast with a preprepared talking point that only tangentially applies to what the opponent just said.

  12. Um he isn’t? He talks over his opponents and hurls accusations, and when he loses he throws a tantrum and leaves. What a moron you are.

  13. If you're a climate scientist who comes across as a shy, gentle, soft-spoken librarian, you're better off avoiding a debate with Ben Shapiro about climate change.

    If you're an evolutionary biologist who comes across as a shy, gentle, soft-spoken librarian, you're better off avoiding a debate with Ben Shapiro about evolution.

    Personality is critical. Lawyers such as Ben Shapiro are people who argue for a living. Being a fast-talking motormouth is an essential attribute when it comes to gaining the upper hand in an arguing match (or "debate"). Climatologists or evolutionary biologists may have the facts on their side, they may have a sound, reasonable case to put forward, but unless they happen to be an articulate extrovert who can aggressively hammer home their points, they're not likely to get anywhere in an oratorical duel. (Sorry, I mean "debate".)

  14. 8. Talk extremely fast
    9. Conjure numbers out of thin air and create sentences that contain phrases like "if we assume" or "let's say"
    He's a con-artist of the highest degree and not half as clever as many people think he is. But good for him, he's collecting all that Koch brothers dosh to spread his BS. A man has to live.

  15. Lets talk about the sorta morons whom walk straight in the very same trap for the 1000 times.
    Intelligence? You have to show em the a word on a explanatory dictionary to get the concept, but what one can await from a leftist troll?

    "fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me"
    But what about be fooled by the very same trick countless times?

  16. The only reason Ben Shapiro is viewed as dominant in debates is that he talks faster than everyone else and refuses to consider the other side's arguments. The only people that think he's smart are people of low intelligence who can't follow what he's saying.

  17. He’s good debater for sure but really he state facts and you can’t counter facts. I doubt he can keep that up if he was arguing for the sky being red.

  18. A warning to all men watching this:

    NEVER use any of these tactics against women or your mothers. You will regret it sooner or later. NEVER

  19. I had to stop right at 7:21 after abortion. In CONTEXT of that short segment I propose this. If NASA found a fossilized single cell paramecium (google it), liberals and conservatives all over the world would declare "WE HAVE FOUND LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!" Yet a MULTI-CELL "organism" in a HUMANS WOMB here on TERRESTRIAL EARTH is just some some "blob" that can be exterminated at will. Under that qualifier or logic, NASA should DESTROY any evidence of life we find on a cellular level in the galaxy. After all, "it's just a cell".

  20. The number one reason is he hates non Israelis and has a unfair advantage. Just like Israelis shooting Palestine citizens when they throw rocks. ROCK

  21. I have fallen in love with this channel for it's neutral analysis. This is amazing! I like to debate, and this is what I do. I use these tactics to get opponents to make rookie mistakes. It is underhanded, but it works like a charm. Many people come at me without evidence, so I bait them into providing it, run the evidence that I get through bias checks on the source, using multiple fact checkers, and use these tactics to control the flow of arguments. I have an immense respect for this channel, because now I am self aware about my debate style. This is very solid, non bias content. At least as unbiased as humanly possible. Non-bias sources don't exist.

  22. Ben is an absolute genius. He’s managed to push the Zionist agenda on what were extremely patriotic people who held the stance of “America first.” Obviously he’s aiding in the destruction of the West, but still, hats off to him for being so effective.

  23. He kept saying..im not having a go at Ben and I'm not saying that Ben does this because he is terrified of Ben roasting him. Nice vid tho🤣👌

  24. He doesn't really say anything. His tactic is to use Communist Jewish intellectualism from the Talmud to confuse you from the truth. If he cannot talk with plain language with few words then he has no argument. Simple as that.

  25. Ben is only any good when he is debating with soft or friendly "opponents". He completely loses it when there is an adult with integrity and serious questions to address.

  26. LOL, Number 6 is definitely NOT a good example of what you are trying to assign to Ben. His argument that there isn't a correlation between income inequality and rates of poverty is in fact contradicted by his very concrete example. I think Ben comes across as 'dominant' only during a debate as most people find him so irritating that the only thing they hear is his annoying voice without listening to what he's actually saying. Read a transcript of his arguments on the other hand and you'll quickly find huge holes in his reasoning and, like in this example, contradictions galore.

  27. Love Ben, BUT to “TRY” and compare yourself with him is ludicrous and way over the top self serving. If your anywhere near as good as Ben like you repeatedly said during your video we’d all know who you are. Enough said.

  28. If I were to put an aborted kitten or puppy in front of a liberal, they would go bananas. But a dead baby is not a dead baby because they don't want it to be. It's insane. They should be confronted with the facts. The result of a successful abortion is a dead baby. The result of a botched abortion is a live baby. So yes, it's a baby.
    The money belongs to the person who earned it. That is the basis of a free society. Communism takes the wealth of the people until there is no more wealth and leaves the people to starve.
    This isn't snuck premise, this is fact.

  29. I do not agree that Ben Shapiro is a skilled debater. He does have a skill, which is excellent memory. Aside from memory, I am hardpressed to find another of his speaking or debating skills. The 'secret' to his success is choosing well-known positions that are easy to defend – there are lots of evidence to support them. Yes, they are consistent with his world view but that is a product of education, not any particular skill on his part. If you listen to Ben you will be surprised that anyone listens to him. He speaks too fast and sounds awful. He makes frequent mistakes in pronunciation because he speaks so fast. His words tumble out. And hs is arrogant with all this lack of skills. He needs to practice his craft and drop his arrogance. Then he will be really successful.

  30. So according to this Democrat filmmaker, a "snuck premise" includes:

    1) Saying an unborn baby is still a "baby"

    2) Saying the money you earned is "yours" not the governments

    Ben's condition for believing Trump is a traitor was for the Mueller investigation to prove it. Mueller failed. So Bill Maher will be apologizing…any day now…

  31. Ben Shapiro: "Facts don't care about your feelings. … …. No no, I said YOUR feelings. Not mine. My feelings are important."

  32. While most of your points make sense, the #1 reason why Ben is so dominant in debate is that he picks EASY TARGETS who don't know what they're talking about. It's easy to win debates when the other person doesn't even know what a logical fallacy is

  33. Shapiro ONLY uses logic in his debates, so to say his arguments might not be logical is ridiculous! Also, Shapiro isn’t one of the best debaters because of certain techniques, he’s one of the best as he uses facts, truth, evidence to destroy everyone he debates with! He’s never gonna use an argument that is simply not true & he does extensive research on any subject that he will talk about. Yes, he does share his opinions, but he will make sure to point out that he, like those on the left, have that very same right of freedom of speech! Ben Shapiro is a destroyer of social justice warriors, radical feminism, pro choice advocates, free speech for everyone since those on the left worship the 1st amendment, yet will show their hypocrisy by silencing every Conservative beliefs since our views are different. Bottom line, he knows that the left wingers & libtards have become a complete joke & so he will make everyone known why the left & libtards are pretty much finished! I could go on & on but don’t take my word for it, hop on YouTube & start binge watching all the Ben Shapiro videos u can find! I promise if u have half a brain, you will enjoy every video of him just putting a serious hurt on anyone he’s up against lol!

  34. According to this video, a snuck premise is calling baby murder "baby murder" and stealing money "stealing money". Imagine rephrasing his assertion like this: "Ben claims that during a mugging the acquisiion of currency is "robbery" as the snuck premise, because the mugger may believe that the money is already theirs".

  35. He does “well” with college students and Fox but gets triggered with adults. It’s obvious he’s just playing a game like Conway.

  36. "Ways to win if you are wrong" if Ben didn't back anything up or was wrong in his statistics, none of these 7 would work. If someone "won" the debate and was "wrong" why would anyone even debate politics?

  37. Shapiro was challenged on a BBC interview. Walked off the interview like a angry little child. Thats being Dominant? I dont think so.

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