Can knife crime be stopped before it starts? BBC Stories

Can knife crime be stopped before it starts? BBC Stories


Structural racism, discrimination it’s within British society. We need to address the inequality. Most people see a typical
London boy as someone who’s rude, incompliant all you see is the tip of the iceberg. If you talk to most boys who
find themselves on the wrong side of the law,
listen to their stories it’s very similar. They were excluded from school. They got into trouble. In the year leading
up to April 2018 almost five thousand people were admitted to hospitals in England after being assaulted
with a knife or sharp weapon. However, this only includes those
who made it to hopsital so the real number is likely to be higher. It is not a black and minority
ethnic community problem it’s a societal problem. So whilst it might be impacting on
the BME communities the most when we look at the root causes, poverty drives knife crime and violence that’s what fuels it. Poverty, lack of opportunity
and inequality. The violence needs to stop. When you look at the education system it doesn’t allow particularly black boys, to thrive. They’re judged based on
where they come from what they look like so it creates this inequality before they even enter the mainstream for further education
or indeed employment. A third of British children
live in poverty. That’s about 10 in a classroom of 30. Black and Asian children are
most likely to be affected. It feels that we’re living
in a parallel universe. So those who are drinking
latte across the road as long as its not affecting them they’re doing nothing. We are an early intervention programme that support young boys from the age of nine to sixteen who are at risk of exclusion. Children on free school meals
are four times more likely to be excluded than those who are not. And over half of those currently
in the UK prison system were excluded from school. If you talk to most boys who find themselves on the
wrong side of the law listen to their story, it’s very similar. They were excluded from school. They got into trouble. What’s? No, no hold on… What we doing that’s wrong? You’re trying to come in,
and you’re trying to leave. So who’s giving way to who? None of these boys have
been excluded from school but they have been identified
as being at risk of exclusion. Between 2012 and 2017, the number of children permanently excluded from state secondary schools in England increased by around two thirds. We have to be very careful that they’re not adults, they’re children that need to be cared for, not punished. We are young leaders at the Southside Young Leaders Academy. Our deepest fear is not that
we are inadequate our deepest fear is that we are
powerful beyond measure. Those are your journals. Journals? Does anybody know what
the meaning of journal? It’s basically a boy’s
version of a diary. Brilliant. Good. A boy’s version of a diary? So a girl can’t have a journal? (Laughing) Alright. Alright, write this down we can talk about that another time. (Laughs) We also provide a bursary programme that allows them to go to boarding school. What we do at Southside is we provide life skills, leadership skills to prepare them as a whole person. The boys come to us because they’re
either referred via a school or via their parents. We do not stereotype. If five black boys are sitting on a wall society wants to portray that
they’re in a gang and it’s just five black
boys sitting on a wall. So it is about changing that narrative. Why are we here? To understand about boarding school? To understand about boarding school. Okay. The boys’ reaction when they go on a trip is one that… excitement, they really are intrigued They ask a lot of questions. The environment that some of these boys come from you’d be hard pushed to find a bookshop to enable them to pick up a book and you know read more. We’re here in the middle of nowhere ok…alright? So how does the surroundings feel? Fresh! Fresh air. Fresh. Ok. So what is your career aspiration? I don’t know. You don’t know? An actor, a lawyer, an engineer or footballer. Ok. So, what we’re going to do,
we’re going to go to King Edward’s School, Witley and see about their experience at boarding school. I wanna stroke it! Everyone wants to stroke the dog? No! Welcome to outside London. I swear down, these places,
they’re so unpredictable. (Laughing) It’s mad! It just came out of nowhere! There should be a sign
that says ‘Hogwarts’. Today, the boys are meeting two pupils who have been at King Edward’s
boarding school for three years. They were both awarded places at the school as part of the bursary programme organised by Southside. The emphasis is not really on where
they’re coming from the emphasis is more where
they’re trying to get to and that is a believable story for the boys. To think: “Well, they actually come
from my neighbourhood, they look like me, so it’s possible.” The classrooms, even the classrooms you notice the difference and like, the attention
you get from a teacher. And the chances I have been given to like, go to university I don’t know…Oxford, Cambridge, King’s College, all those schools. I feel like most people see a typical London boy as someone who’s rude, like, incompliant all you see is the tip of the iceberg. The majority of the kids are just regular people that want to strive
and do better. How many detentions have you had? (Laughing) I’ve… got better, let’s say that. That’s not answering the question. (Laughing) Do you ever have the opportunity to shave your hair? (Laughing) Oh my god… Yeah, it’s sort of refreshing to go
back in to London so like, you don’t forget truly
where you’ve come from. If I said, like today, tomorrow: “Do you want to come to this school?” Would you say yes or no? Yes! It’s a lot safer than my secondary school. Maybe next year I might come here. Going to one of these schools is going to change you as a person, change how you see life, in a way. Change how you think. Because when you have as much
opportunity as you get at this school you have a chance to be someone. You have a chance to not
follow the stereotypes that people may see you as. You have a chance to be who you want to be. But that all comes with work of course, but I feel like this has really changed my life as it’s shown me what I
can really achieve if I try. The impact on a child being excluded they’ve started to feel that erm, nobody wants them. That’s the bit they understand that you’ve rejected them. The statistics show it hasn’t been a positive outcome for most of
these young people. Chicken salad, you can manage? Alright, want to have some fruit? If we don’t get there
before they’re excluded some end up in pupil referral, pupil referral to young offenders, young offenders to mainstream prison. The average cost of keeping somebody in a Young Offender’s Institute for a year is £75,000 For that same year it costs £30,000 to send them to a boarding school like King Edward’s. f I want to be clear that boarding school is not the answer to everybody’s situation. My point is that we need to invest in young people now if you want them to be useful and positive in society. We need to invest in these disadvantaged communities. Turn them into thriving communities. Create leaders that will produce more leaders. And I believe that it’s not the solution, but it’s one of the solutions. If they are told that they’re inadequate we have to teach them to conquer their deepest fear. They are bright, they are powerful. Throughout my secondary education they didn’t encourage me to be a lawyer doctor, or anything. They had low expectations. So you have to provide them with the tools and then you have to instil in them self belief, they have to believe in themselves. They come to us as a boy and they’re moving towards manhood. There’s only that small window that you’re going to be a boy. We’ve got to teach them How do you go about navigating yourself around the world that you live in?

28 thoughts on “Can knife crime be stopped before it starts? BBC Stories

  1. It is a black problem ! Look at the stats 90% black . When this country went through recession knife crime didn’t rise and you can’t blame poverty for the rise in this crime . Simply lack of ability to bring children up in broken black families where older men are not present gives rise to a need to belong in gangs . Inner city ghettos fuelled by social media is a breading ground . Parents in these community need to push their kids into a library rather than let them run a muck on the streets .

  2. The title made me expect to see rudeness, violence, "bad behaviour"… but all I see is some very normal seeming young boys. It's hard to believe that they could be in prison in a few years.

  3. I was 18 years old and in my first year of university in London in the 1980s and I was finding it difficult fitting in. Consequently I wasn't that enthusiastic about going to my lectures and missed 2 lectures and was told by the professor that I needed "POLICING"! Who uses terminology like that in a TEACHING environment??

  4. Embrace left wing authority, hug a knife carrier. You can't take their knives away because they may be offended. Pile the knife victims bodies up on street corners. Hug a tree hug everything. Let's all be offended. Oh and BBC keep playing music thats brainwashing to the teenagers that encourages violence and street gang culture. Yes sing about bitches, hoes and ultra violence on the radio to make it normal so all the young people can listen. Hug ultra violence too. Anyone got a machine gun?? Or a machete let's cleave someone in half. Oh I love the out of control non authority government. Anyone caught with a knife ten years in prison no parole. Anyone caught a second time 50 years in prison. Broadcast that on TV every day.

  5. The issue really down to parenting and discipline.

    There's a correlation between the generations that got a good hiding and the generations that have become more criminal as corporal punishment has declined. I don't think a return to C.P is necessarily the best idea, but there needs to be a shift towards parents meting out serious consequences for beaches of discipline and without C.P, there aren't many options besides confiscating phones, games consoles and computers, allowing them access only to a desktop in the living room to do homework where they can be restricted to sites related to schoolwork and monitored to ensure they aren't using social media.

    I'm black, I grew up in 'poverty'. Never once got into serious crime although this may be down to having raised in the Jehovah's witness cult despite getting out agreed 12 on a 'technicality'. Even so, I was always a rebel despite getting more than my fair share of hidings.

    I did sell weed for a little while but that's mainly because I was a stoner and it was the smart way to fund an evening listening to music, as well as maintaining my personal supply of Buddah.

  6. It's not by coincidence this is happening in a country with vast numbers of social injustice and income inequality. More prisons, more homelessness, more social deprivation than any other country in Western Europe.

  7. Essentially their implying that by increasing primary education and accessibility that knife crime can be reduced? I agree that by teaching black and asian youth that they are equal and can thrive regardless of the self fulfilling prophecy other races may attempt to delude their minds with. More education= Less crime.

    It appears that the headline is problematic by not completely relating to the message of encouraging positive conversation. I feel as if people who comment here are more focused on the issue of playing the blame game with their nifty statistic actually investigating the solution. Anyways, lovely video. I hope all those boys lead pleasant and successful lives.

  8. As sad as it is 10 people in a population of 60 million is nothing for the police to start screaming we need more money? There's always loads of them around if you have a car accident they seem to just pop out of the woodwork, the UK government helped murder hundreds of men wemon and children last year when it sold Saudi Arabia loads of weapons to use on the people of Yemen nobody batted an eye, yes stop knife crime, take children round hospitals and the morge while there young show them the consequences of their actions, stop video games that promote violence, pay descent wages so one parent can stay home to bring up the children, not let them drag themselves up on the Internet.

  9. Man after ruling half the world you British have really fallen into pathetic times… Everything moves in cycles we get it… But still you had both a steep rise and a equally bad descent

  10. Poverty doesn’t create crime…violent crime was not rampant in the immigrant tenements of New York during the turn of the century..crimes roots are cultural and family related

  11. I’ve seen white CHILDREN with more manners and decorum than some OTHER adults possess…if u have never been taught how to behave in society, should we be surprised at these outcomes?

  12. Boarding School is not the answer…….but I am saying that we need to invest in young people now….
    The Parents HAVE to be the first to invest in the child…the love and support of parents and family give you a foundation and identity that no one in the larger world can take from you…but you also have to listen to what society as a whole is telling you about yourself

  13. Yes knife crime can be stopped before it starts,,,,,,, it starts by getting rid of your traitorist govt and Removing Every muzrat from the UK

  14. THIS KNIFING EACH OTHER ALL STARTED OVER A WOMAN, BUT THEN AGAIN THE BLACK YOUTH KILLING EACH OTHER IS BETTER FOR THE DEPOPULATION OF THE BLACK HETEROSEXUAL MALE IN LONDON FOR THE 1%

  15. The majority of knife crimes I can buy young black youths so why don't we deal with them first if they are under the age of 16 go after the parents are not controlling their feral children the government pay these parents good tax credit housing benefit to bring up these children are the majority of people pay for their own kids anymore stop their money make the parents responsible if I allow my dog to bite someone I am punished but yeah I can breathe very children and that's ok

  16. They brought their culture with them from Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bengal, Sudan, Sierra Leone, Libya, Senegal, Nigeria, Eritrea, Angola, Pakistan, knifings, honour killings, acid attacks, child sex grooming. You welcomed them into your country. They are part of you forever. You deserve every inch of their hate.

  17. Sorry but it’s nothing that can be palmed off on ‘racism’
    Yes it is a black and ethnic minority issue.
    There’s been poor disadvantaged white kids in this country literally for centuries, even now it’s white kids in the north that have the worst outcomes.
    Inner city gangs say they have been forced to up levels of violence to compete with Congolese and Somali gangs.
    It’s not whiteys fault.

  18. Sadly , from a US perspective knife crime seems quaint . I'll remember those little brown boys next time I see a smug comment about where racism exists though.

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