Sen. Rand Paul on CNN’s Starting Point with Soledad O’Brien – 10/04/12

Sen. Rand Paul on CNN’s Starting Point with Soledad O’Brien – 10/04/12


AND ACCORDING TO THAT POLL, THAT CNN/ORC POLL, MOST VOTERS BELIEVE THAT, IN FACT, HE DID WIN LAST NIGHT, SOLEDAD.>>DAN LOTHIAN, THANKS, DAN.>>>I WANT TO GET TO SENATOR RAND PAUL, A REPUBLICAN FROM KENTUCKY WHO’S SUPPORTING MITT ROMNEY. HE HAS A NEW BOOK OUT. IT’S CALLED “GOVERNMENT BULLIES: HOW EVERYDAY AMERICANS ARE BEING HARASSED, ABUSED, AND IMPRISONED BY THE FEDS.” I WAS ALMOST AFRAID TO OPEN IT WHEN I STARTED READING IT.>>IT’S GOOD.>>LET’S TALK ABOUT THE DEBATE. YOU HAD THE OPTION OF WATCHING THE YANKEES OR WATCHING THE DEBATE AND YOU CHOSE — >>WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN IS THE YANKEES KICKED BUTT LAST NIGHT.>>AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLL NUMBERS, SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, GOVERNOR ROMNEY AS WELL.>>GOVERNOR ROMNEY DIDN’T NEED ME LAST NIGHT. I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND I WAS PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH HIS PERFORMANCE.>>WE HEARD DAN LOTHIAN TALKING ABOUT THE WHITE HOUSE SPIN. THEY SAID, IT’S NOT GOING TO SHIFT THE RACE DRAMATICALLY. DO YOU AGREE THAT SORT OF ONE-NIGHT PERFORMANCE IN A DEBATE, TO PLAY IT UP AS BEING A GAME CHANGER IS NOT CORRECT?>>WELL ABOUT 90 TO 95% OF AMERICANS HAVE DECIDED, THERE’S ABOUT 5% LESS, SO NOTHING REALLY CHANGES DRAMATICALLY. SO YOU’RE TRYING TO SHIFT THE 4, 5, 6, 7% OF THE VOTE THAT MIGHT SHIFT AT THIS POINT. I THINK MOST EVERYBODY ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH GOING TO SET ON WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO DO. SO YOU ARE SHOOTING FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, SOME IN THE MIDDLE. BUT INTERESTINGLY, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE MIDDLE, THERE ARE PEOPLE ON BOTH EXTREMES. WHEN RALPH NADER TAKES VOTES, LIBERTARIANS TAKE VOTES. THEY NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM AS WELL. IT’S STILL A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER.>>SENATOR, I WATCH YOU EVERY DAY ON CAPITOL HILL TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO GIVE SPECIFICS ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO REALLY DO TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT. AND MITT ROMNEY IS NOT GIVING SPECIFICS ON WHAT HE’S GOING TO DO, SPECIFICALLY, FORMING TAX CODE. DOES HE NEED TO DO THAT? DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT?>>IN HIS DEFENSE, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS TAX CODE IS ENORMOUSLY COMPLICATED, SO YOU DO HAVE TO TALK SOMEWHAT IN GENERALITIES. HE WANTS TO MAKE THE RATES LOWER, HE WANTS TO MAKE THE TAX CODE SIMPLER, AND HE IS FOR HAVING LESS DEDUCTIONS OR CUTS. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY BOTH OF THEM MISSED LAST NIGHT THIS, WHEN EVERYBODY’S LIKE, CAN YOU PAY FOR IT, WILL YOU ADD TO THE DEBT, HE HAS A GENERAL PHILOSOPHY THAT HE’S NOT GOING TO ADD TO THE DEBT WITH TAX CUTS. BUT ANOTHER WAY NOT TO ADD TO THE DEBT, WHY NOT CUT SPENDING?>>LET’S DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. YOU WOULD SAY, YOU WOULDN’T VOTE FOR ANY PLAN, A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRATIC PLAN THAT DOESN’T BALANCE THE BUDGET. AND WHAT YOU’RE CERTAINLY, IN THAT SPECIFIC EXAMPLE, WE’RE NOWHERE CLOSE TO ENOUGH OF A DEFINITE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO — >>BUT IT WILL BE HASHED OUT OVER MANY MONTHS. TAX REFORM WILL BE AN ENORMOUS BILL AND AN ENORMOUS PACKAGE. AND I WILL SAY, WHEN I’M PART OF THE PROCESS, I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT IF IT ADDS TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE DEFICIT. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS TO DO IT. YOU CAN GET RID OF DEDUCTIONS, AND I AM FOR GETTING RID OF DEDUCTIONS. AND IF THERE ARE NOT DEDUCTIONS, AND YOU SAY IT’S A GOOD IDEA TO SPUR THE ECONOMY, WHEN THE ECONOMY GREW 5 AND 6% UNDER REAGAN, IT’S BECAUSE WE DID SIGNIFICANT TAX REDUCTIONS OF THE UPPER CLASS. WE WENT FROM A TAX RATE OF 70 WHEN REAGAN CAME IN TO 50, AND WE WENT FROM 50 TO 28 AND THE ECONOMY GREW LIKE GANGBUSTERS. THAT’S WHAT WE NEED AGAIN.>>SENATOR, LAST NIGHT OBAMA REMINDED ROMNEY OF WHAT HE SAID IN THE DEBATES. HE SAID, IF YOU HAVE TEN CUTS FOR ONE REVENUE INCREASE, YOU STILL WOULDN’T SUPPORT THAT. ISN’T THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM, WHEN YOU HAVE REPUBLICANS WHO SAY, I WON’T SUPPORT ANY TYPE OF REVENUE INCREASE AND WOW WON’T EVEN ACCEPT ANY CUTS? THAT MAKES NO SENSE.>>WELL, I THINK EVERYBODY SAYS THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE. AND THE NARRATIVE IS THAT WE WON’T COMPROMISE. I THINK WE ACTUALLY DO COMPROMISE ALL THE TIME. WE COMPROMISE TO RAISE MILITARY SPENDING AND TO RAISE DOMESTIC WELFARE SPENDING. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE COMPROMISE IS NOT TO RAISE TAXES, THE COMPROMISE IS REDUCE MILITARY SPENDING AND REDUCE DOMESTIC SPENDING. I THINK I’VE GOT SOME WORK EVEN ON MY SIDE ON THAT. BUT I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC’S READY FOR IT.>>THE BOOK IS A SERIES OF STORIES OF HOW PEOPLE WERE, IN MANY CASES, LIKE HORRIBLY MALTREATED BY CERTAIN GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND YOU RAGE AGAINST TSA AND AGAINST THE FDA AND THE EPA. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GOVERNOR ROMNEY AND YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT OBAMA, YOU HAVE TAKEN EXCEPTION TO SOME OF GOVERNOR ROMNEY’S PLANS. YOU HAVE TAKEN EXCEPTION TO THE PRESIDENT EAST PLANS. WHO DO YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY IN THIS BOOK?>>WHEN I THINK OF WHAT’S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, I THINK OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION. I DON’T THINK IT’S AS BAD AS THE GREAT DEPRESSION, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE. THE GREAT DEPRESSION GOT WORSE AND THEN IT STABILIZED AND THEN IT GOT WORSE FOR ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX YEARS. THE REASON IT GOT WORSE, AND THIS IS FROM AMITY SCLAIS, “THE FORGOTTEN MAN,” A BOOK ABOUT THE GREAT DEPRESSION, SHE SAYS THAT GOVERNMENT FORGOT AND THE DEPRESSION GOT WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE. WE’VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE BAD POLICIES. BUT I THINK BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW ARE TERRIFIED OF THE PRESIDENT. SO MY BOOK IS ABOUT REGULATIONS, BUT I THINK IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT SIMPLY WHO IS FRIENDLY TO BUSINESS, IN A WAY THAT HE ENCOURAGES BUSINESS TO INVEST. AND BUSINESSMEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE TERRIFIED.>>SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY A BAILOUT OF THE AUTO INDUSTRY WAS FRIENDLY TO BUSINESS. A BAILOUT OF THE BANKS WAS FRIENDLY TO BUSINESS — >>FRIENDLY TO FAILED BUSINESSES. BUSINESSES THAT SHOULD HAVE GONE UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP.>>I WANT TO ASK SENATOR PAUL ONE QUESTION. YOU POINT OUT DURING THE REAGAN YEARS THAT TAX RATES WERE LOWER. BUT BY LOWERING TAXES ON LOW-INCOME EARNERS, YOU HELP THE ECONOMY. DID IT BOTHER YOU LAST NIGHT TO HEAR MITT ROMNEY TALK ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS, I DON’T WANT TO LOWER TAXES ON THE HIGHER INCOME.>>I THINK EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES IN THAT, WHO PAYS THE TAX ISN’T SO MUCH IMPORTANT. IT’S WHERE THE MONEY GOES. SHOULD THE MONEY STAY WITH THE PEOPLE WHO EARNED IT OR SHOULD IT STAY IN THE STATE OF OHIO OR SHOULD IT GO TO WASHINGTON? WHERE IS MONEY MOST EFFICIENTLY SPENT? AND CAN YOU RECOVER AN ECONOMY BY HIRING MORE GOVERNMENT WORKERS? CAN YOU HIRE 100,000 GOVERNMENT WORKERS AND SAY, OH, WE’RE GOING TO BE BETTER? SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THEIR SALARIES. GOVERNMENT WORKERS AREN’T BAD PEOPLE — >>LIKE CLASS DIVISION? DOES THAT BOTHER YOU?>>IT ALWAYS DOES. I LIVE IN BOWLING GREEN, KENTUCKY. SHOULD YOU LEAVE THE MONEY IN BOWLING GREEN, KENTUCKY, OR SEND IT TO WASHINGTON? AND FRIEDMAN SAID, NOBODY SPENDS SOMEBODY ELSE’S MONEY AS WELL AS THEY SPEND THEIR OWN. SO LEAVE IT WITH THE PEOPLE WHOSE MONEY IT REALLY IS, AND THE ECONOMY WILL GROW AGAIN. THAT’S WHAT WE NEED.>>SENATOR RAND PAUL, THE BOOK IS CALLED

41 thoughts on “Sen. Rand Paul on CNN’s Starting Point with Soledad O’Brien – 10/04/12

  1. Remember John Kerry's plan. He used it as a teaser to vote for him. And we never have heard of John Kerry ever doing anything.

  2. Look at how they act towards him. His support of Romney has given him something his father could have never achieved: Respect.

  3. he doesn't gain any real respect from endorsing romney, its not actually respect its just comfort for the people in the news, they are all idiots too they are partly responsible for how we think so its their fault. obama or romney will lead us all to crap there isn't really a respectable thing about endorsing romney other then just purely playing politics. He's just playing the football game.

  4. he ain't his dad but that he's his dad's son and he is ok,. Dr Paul, i'm looking forward to witnessing your service to the people and thank you for serving….

  5. To Hades with the GOP after what the RNC did to his father. We can only hope that Rand Paul and the likes of those his father has inspired to strive for liberty is the future of the USA .

  6. 0:11 "I was almost afraid to open it". Thats because you are an indoctrinated, left-wing nutjob who suffers from Cognitive Dissonance.

  7. They are supposed to talk about the contents of Rand's book…. However they try to blind side him about things Romney said in the debate.. CNN gets more and more pathetic by the day.. You know they have to be funded by the shills who seek to continue taking freedoms away from us because people arent watching the Network like they used too.

  8. Wow they treat Rand with such respect but if Ron was on there…I'm sure they would have had tons of gotcha questions lined up for him.

  9. paul thinks romneys a good candidate..hes definitely wrong there,.unless your a multimillionaire thats doesnt pay their fair share of taxes..america romney has always been rich,this man has never worried about a house payment or electric bill in his life.!He has no idea what its like for the middleclass and never will..obama is a fail ,promises made, ill do things differently, lies,hes just like the rest ,corporate puppet in the two ring circus. and we pay for all of it.!

  10. ill tell you what fair share is 35 percent of gross income and no loop holes or the crap trickle down theory which has never worked

  11. I agree with you…. I just hope the establishment types and the morons that hang on their every word agree with you as well.

  12. How is Rand Paul a sell out? Ron Paul was not nominated and has accepted the reality of that fact. How did Ron Paul give up?

  13. thank you Will Cain for FINALLY asking that.. i have been wondering why noone is concerned with mitt not wanting to cut taxes for the top earners. my only guess is he doesnt wanna sound like he wants to cut his own taxes….

  14. I love this guy. Always reasonable and unruffled. Confident because he knows he's fighting for the principles this country was founded on, but never stooping to scare tactics or mudslinging. I've always been a "measures not men" kind of gal, but the way he so calmly explains his views makes me want to write him in whether he runs for reelection or not.

  15. yeah its something his dad could't do very well when he was a young Congressman, Rand also connects to people better, I look forward to him making a play in 2016

  16. The logic behind "trickle down economics" is that if we reduce the tax burden upon the wealthy the weathy will take that extra cash and invest it which will create jobs and wealth for the not so wealthy. It's a sound concept actually but I don't like the idea of tax breaks for one income class vs. tax increases for another. Ultimately this leads to class warfare and nobody should be rewarded or penalized for the ammount of money they have/earn. There should be a reasonable flat tax rate for all.

  17. I can understand, I never thought to highly of Romney either but Rand was simply playing political gamesmanship and making what he felt was the best move for not only his own political career but the party he is aligned with and the country as a whole. My guess is Romney wasn't Rand's first choice but he felt Romney would be far easier to work with and much less of a disaster than Obama. If this was his line of thinking I agree with his decision.

  18. I don't see how it was compromise, by hook or by crook Mitt Romney was going to win the nomination and Rand Paul risked alienating himself from the rest of the Republican party and many conservative minded people. It's called political gamesmanship. Perhaps had his old man mastered the concept of political gamesmanship he would have gotten somewhere a long time ago instead of being a virtual nobody in national politics for the majority of his 30 something year career.

  19. The Tea Party has made significant inroads into the Republican party and working to reform it from with in. This is what the Tea Party was all about origionally and they had Neo Cons like Cheney & McCain running scared and to some degree still too. Unfortunately the Obama Care debate too the Tea Party's eye off the prize, then they started going after Dumbycrats like Pelosi, Reid & Obama. Guys like Rand Paul & Jim DeMint have worked hard to continue the reformation of the Republican party.

  20. I do agree with you that the Republican party has certainly been compromised and I'd argue that the Democratic party had been compromised much longer. And for the record the Republican party was compromised long before Tea Party rallies. Say what you will about the Beck & Palin but the Tea Party was largely made up of average Americans who saw the Republican party was compromised and they tried to reform it. The Tea Party itself became compromised during the Obama Care debates by Neo Cons.

  21. It's called politics. Rand Paul was playing the political game. He didn't blindly endorse Romney, he sat down with Romney and told him what he would have to do and what positions he would have to back (many of his dad's views) to gain his endorsement. Romney agreed, he may have been lying through his teeth but he agreed. That is how political games are played. Had his father learned this 30+ years ago maybe he wouldn't have spent the vast majority of his political career in anonymity.

  22. The way I see it Rand Paul was in a lose/lose situation with his endorsement during the Republican primaries. I can see you are a Ron Paul fan and I love Ron Paul myself. Rand Paul was stuck in a position to where if he endorsed his father he risked alienating himself from the rest of the GOP which could have killed him in the future politically but kept his father's supporters happy. Had he endorsed Romney he risked alienating many of his father's supporters obviously. But he didn't sell out.

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