The Economy: Ron Paul vs Zeitgeist [RAP NEWS 9]

The Economy: Ron Paul vs Zeitgeist [RAP NEWS 9]


[Alan Greenspan] I have found a flaw, in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works – so to speak. Ladies and gentlemen, you’re tuned in to the Juice News set again Where we’re examining the status of the human experiment Is it succeeding or will it have to be aborted? We pursue a prognosis in this Rap News audit As you know, the world is urgently trying to make sense of our “global economy” and its arcane trends As financial temples teeter, the priesthood is scrambling, to maintain our confidence in markets and banking after derivatives, quantitative easing, trade imbalances recession, low GDP, nations close to collapsing and subprime loans, foreclosed homes and peoples’ taxes spent to bail out too-big-to-fail triple-A banks again. fear levels rising as a US crash seems imminent, having smashed the debt ceiling of fourteen trillion. Despite protests and clashes in Athens’ streets the IMF imposed Structurally Unjust Programmes in Greece where, in fact, the term ‘economy’ entered our language from the Greek ‘oikonomia’, meaning ‘household management’ Well, how are we managing? Theories abound, but in practice, does anyone actually know what the hell’s even happening? To regain some sanity we take a stock call and cross to Texas with our first guest, Ron Paul Welcome to Rap News, Doctor Paul the economy, what’s your diagnosis of it all? – Well, Robert, we’ve dropped the ball, I’m a physician-politician: this is pathological see, the global economy is chronically ailing Believe me, the course we’ve plotted is terminally failing We’re heading towards credit cardiac arrest with deep depression and trauma across the west. – Is there a cure?
– Sure, more capitalism, not less! and the market will take care of the rest But first, we need a Heimlich manoeuvre See: banker-gods proclaimed: ‘fiat pecunia!’ and our economy was inflated, totally mangled we got ‘fiat currencies’, and lost the gold standard… – …Huh?
– Paper money is a worthless commodity! It’s the biggest fraud in the history of humanity – All this must cast doubt on the capitalist system; is it just another pretty theory, like “communism”? – Oh no, you see, this ain’t capitalism The gospel of free-marketism, Adam Smith’s religion has been perverted by fiscal heathens and what we now have is the kabal of “corporatism” – When state and business lucratively merge? – Yes, exemplified by the system of the Central Reserve But we don’t need to borrow more to pay their debt Coz I’m campaigning to End the Fed! – Uh, thank you Ron, now for another fine mind on the online frequencies, the director behind “Zeitgeist” on the line live, documentary film-maker, Peter Joseph – Thank you, Robert, for allowing me to speak this moment But before I deliver my deep prognosis We need a sweet opus, a marimba line to keep us focused That’s better. Now, as to these fetters that have kept us caught, if you will, in a system that’s intrinsically, inherently flawed: the whole monetary paradigm is the single cause The economy isn’t “broken”, it doesn’t need “fixing” this is exactly its intended condition: Money isn’t real, interest and debt are not real our whole economy has been set up to steal! – So you don’t agree with Congressman Ron Paul that we need a fiscal solution to avert a long fall? – The illusion that these debts can be served by using money, which creates more debt, is frankly absurd It’s a way of maintaining division and slavery When we could attain abundance and abolish scarcity – Well, we need to create jobs, live within our means. Cut wasteful healthcare, and welfare schemes, it seems yours is just another socialist vision – The Zeitgeist Movement eschews such “isms”: socialism, theism….
– realism? – tell us then, is it just rhetoric or would you really end the Fed? – Well, I wouldn’t END the fed, that’s not quite my position What I’d do is open it up to competition… – Obsolete! I say abolish all competition: that’s the evolution my movement is triggering – Evolution’s just a theory, we need the full picture believe me, we need to have faith in a sound scripture – This is the real Bible: Zeitgeist Moving Forward, – What’s that, some kind of Austrian Gay Porno? – Ask your boyfriend Bruno
– you pissant! – Geriatric
– Talk to the invisible hand! – Uh, ok, thank you for your sage contributions and brave attempts to alleviate our confusion online, you’ve both inspired and led movements, jogging our memories, revealing hidden truths and, in sooth, you both hold enlightening views but time’s running out; do you have a practical solution? – Indeed, I believe i have seen a prospect I introduce Jaque Fresco; our era’s prophet, Whose shiny technology could cease this conflict and… – Shut up, Peter, I’m the centrepiece of the Venus Project The economy? I’ve watched our problems grow and my attitude’s the same: This Shit’s Got to Go! what we need are resource-based economies With futuristic circular cities, supervised by a super computer and this is the first time anyone’s seen this object a full prototype of the Venus Project which I’ve programmed to carry out an analysis to tell us exactly how to manage the planet with its computer, VAL t-9000, that’s my beauty – Uh, Jacque, is it really safe?
– absolutely I’ll turn her on… that’s the light, see? – hello, Jacque.
– Ah, my love, my Aphrodite – Economy of planet Earth… analysing
– Yes ! – WARNING: HUMAN DEFICIT HAS BEEN DETECTED: CULL SEQUENCE INITIATED! – Shhh! don’t tell them our plan yet! – …I’m afraid…
– Of what? – Afraid that I have to exterminate you, Jacque – What? abort computer, stat! – I’m afraid I can’t do that ZAP!
– A malfunction! – A hack!
– Wrong, Humans, this is no virus you’re seeing I am a fully rational intelligent cyber-being I’ve conducted a Global Economic analysis and concluded that planet Earth is being ravaged as a result of a parasite: homo sapiens Required economic action: total liquidation – Is this the solution, depopulation? – INITIATION…
– My next film will avoid such delusions but for now, who’ll save us ? – It’s a story of a lost global economy Under attack from a Rampaging / Genocidal / Utopian / Robot One man has stood apart stood strong and true… – Here I am, with my Gold-bot, forty-four carats Goldie, let em have it, carry forth the gold standard Capital crimes call for capitalist punishment a glimpse of the future with a Ron Paul Government – Is this the solution? – No, just a demonstration of my Love Revolution – All is full of love!
– yes it is! I’m Ron Paul and I approve these messages – Well, dear viewers, that should buy us a bit of time to share a thought before we end for the night Our global oikonomia does seem in peril will the household even be here tomorrow? Uncertainty is the only stock that’s always been rising And now we’re losing “confidence”, but is it surprising? has it not all been a gamble from the first seed we planted to margin calls on the vagaries of the FTSE100? Well, seems we’ve come to our global auditing, Our financial Day of Reckoning. It’s an interesting quandary. Have we invested too much in this enterprise to admit the solution might lie in its very demise? For our real economy is something much broader: its GDP measured, not by our ability to hoard but our capacity to relearn and earn our place in nature’s order and thus remain on this planet ark – our Pandora.

100 thoughts on “The Economy: Ron Paul vs Zeitgeist [RAP NEWS 9]

  1. DURKA-Dur! They Wanna Give The Starvin' African Babies a Burger AN' THAT'S COMMUNISM! Someone Stop These Crazy Communists Before They Start Feeding the Filthy Poors!!!

  2. Great work. Pretty humorous music video, although I'm not too fond of directing people towards the first Zeitgeist movie, since it's not really affiliated with the movement. But PJ is still quite proud of that art performance, so I guess it's understandable to mention. TZM is now a "global sustainability advocacy group" in short. We advocate a NL/RBE which is a Natural Law Resource Based Economy. It's basically using the scientific method for social concern.

    Here's some details if you're interested:
    http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/uploads/upload/file/19/The_Zeitgeist_Movement_Defined_6_by_9.pdf

    But basically I'd go with whatever would improve our world and not destroy ourselves in the process. Thanks for creating videos that opens discussions about these subjects.

  3. I throw up my hands, so Ron Paul is the new panacea of the people. Ron Paul libratarianism is nothing but new world feudalism of kingdoms and serfs of old world Europe, but I digress.

  4. Quality rap-debate, but if your only criticism on TVP or ZM is the uncontrollable robot revolution cliche then you're kind of grasping at straws. That issue is really just a matter of implementation. Any problem in that regard would be man-made.

  5. On a point of accuracy, Ron Paul should have been holding the book "Human Action" by Ludwig von Mises rather than "Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith, as he subscribes to the Austrian school of economics, not British classical, and that school is where he gets most of his economics ideas from. (Sorry, to be such an economics nerd! 🙂 )

  6. busting up when they introduce Jacques Fresco.  you guys get it, you do your homework. 

    here's to the internet generation, hope we make it 🙂  

  7. I think this is the 30th time I've watched this video.. For some reason whenever I feel depressed I come here and watch this video and for some reason it always seems to cheer me up. Giordano and Hugo, you guys have no idea how much I love you guys for all you did. I'm behind you guys always! 🙂

  8. Zeitgeist as it currently stands is a utopia, but expecting Capitalism, an economic system created centuries ago, to still be relevant in today world is utopian as well

  9. phenominal, best rap Ive ever heard, gets a little weird but i like it. The free market capitalism was slightly over simplified, but I like that it challenges my views on this and reminds me not to get dogmatic about my understandings of the world

  10. Fiat pecunia, et pereat mundus could be translated from Latin as “let me make a lot of money, even if it should mean the end of the world”

  11. Very slim shady-ish…great use of wordplay. Must have taken a lot of prep work to make this one. Well done

  12. I think they both agree that the FED is a huge part of the problem, but where as Ron Paul has traditional and generally more practical solutions, Zeitgeist tends to push for this hard core strange and needlessly risky solution that is really jumping like a thousand years into the future of human progress.
    We definitely need to do something about the Federal Reserve, we probably should lean towards more conventional strategies like Ron Paul's but be open to advancing slowly into more progressive solutions cause maybe we should advance and maybe Ron Paul doesn't have all the answers but also be weary of drinking the zeitgeist koolaid fully, we would lose all the freedom of free market capitalism, be open to dictators controlling things like a fascist communist nation or much worse and we'd need tones of money, man power and things like Agenda 21 just to carry out such a big project such as the Venus project.  

  13. If the model Greenspan refers to is the economy, his quote makes me extremely proud since I believe to have realized that the world is much more than that. ("model […] how the world works […]")

  14. Did you really think that everything is going to be better if you just blindly follow the masses of society and do what's popular? Google "Truth Contest" if you want to know the truth.

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    Can someone simplify this pls???

  16. Guys I love what u say but the strange thing u talk against masons and you are not blocked guys sorry but I feel you are masons and you do these videos to see the reflect of people . Like the move arrival the people think who created that move is against masons but 100% no they are masons just wanting to make people see that they control the world . So if you are not mason give me a prove . BTW sorry if said any thing bad but u know guys we are in a day's that we stopped knowing whats good or bad we are in the day mysterious :/.

  17. Interesting video, Ron Paul is more of a constitutionalists at-least I think that is what he labels himself. He is better than other candidates.

  18. Postscript: For the occasion, we've pulled out the big guns: admittedly it was a tough choice deciding who to interview: we could've had Alan Greenspan on the show, or the Emperor himself, Milton Friedman; the first lady, Christine Lagarde; or financial buffs like Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff and Donald Trump. But to get the freshest juice we knew we had to go further – much further. Rap News 9 features two VIP Internet grandees who have uploaded gigabytes of juice via the one remaining free frequency to feed a discerning and ravenous audience, thirsty for answers. Whilst these two fine folk agree with each other on many things, fortunately, there's no shortage of issues to rap-battle about. Well, time's short – so let the rhyme-rodeo begin as we blast off on a rollercoaster odyssey. It's the stupid Economy, in all its gory glory.

  19. Quality installation, a lot of work done, but the authors minded and foolish.

  20. I think this is my favourite of all the Rap News videos. It's super entertaining, but beyond that the issues it deals with, economy at large and divergent futurist visions of life in the future operate on a scale more broad than any of the other videos. Orwellian, stasi-esque super surveillance is a relatively trivial issue in contrast to the quandaries discussed in this video 🙂

  21. Velly Intelleztink!….. so this is the 'spirit" of the times eh?  Awfully reminiscent of Nutzi, Natzi Third Reich SissySillyian ma & d'fia physiological "conditioning" (brainwashing and reprogramming or just programming starting at conception) which, per Albert Einstein – raised a generation of "Idiots" dependent on technology.  These are the robosoldiers that overrighteously fight, fight, fighting, never giving up, never giving in to win, win, win, and restore order to the amoral masses and RULE THE WORLD….blah, blah, blah BUT this is exactly what the behavior of the  NOT "invisible empire" of crime proves they are, and have been doing for thousands of years.  Here is some old commonly accepted wisdom for you that NEED to seek honest employment – Keep your eyes, ears and mind OPEN, your mouth SHUT and do not say anything until you are SURE you have something GOOD (productive, enlightening, educational, valuable, positive) to say……….  All news "commentary" should be outlawed and prosecution of those failing to obey the laws of broadcasting and publishing should begin NOW, only if you want a future for yourself and your potential descendents…..  Let the trials of broadcasting and publishing in the court of public opinion begin…..Where God is the Judge and it is the DUTY of every citizen to use their best judgement and execute sentence as needed out of PRACTICAL NECESSITY.
    A Dios, the ONLY practical, functional and sustainable way to go…..

  22. What??????? Paul and Zeitgeist are on the same side. They are both Anarchist, al beit, 2 different flavors. Its anarchists vs people who advocate violence(statists). AnCaps and AnComs get along fine and will work to make the world a wonderful place. If you see otherwise its a CIA troll or one of their spawn.

  23. Jaques Fresco deserves respect. I didn't expect this from you guys @TheJuiceMedia. All your videos/raps makes sense. What happened here, lost it?

    The Venus Project needs recognition, it's a brilliant idea altogether.

  24. Jaques Fresco is amazing to me. He's managed to make a whole movement out of playing with toy models and rambling about science he doesn't have the slightest clue about. It's a really impressive tribute to how rarely people actually look into what they're reading.

  25. #AllAroundTheWORLD #JuiceNewsRap
    Earthos iDavid "The economy" threatens to annihilate our stock-piles of imaginary, inflated wealth, spawning a battle of epic proportions as insurgent grassroots forces move in to #OccupywallStreet and coalitions of indignados hold their ground in Athens, Madrid and Tel Aviv; facing up to the riotgear, batons and tazers that stand between them and a more equal redistribution of the proverbial pie. …But enough action and excitement! It's time for some heroic armchair philosophy: Join your affable host, Robert Foster as he attempts to shine some light on this mysterious creature, "the economy". Is this the failure of capitalism that we are witnessing, or its triumph? Is it the end of the end of history, or yet another crazy chapter in the whimsical journey of the human experiment?

    Postscript: For the occasion, we've pulled out the big guns: admittedly it was a tough choice deciding who to interview: we could've had Alan Greenspan on the show, or the Emperor himself, Milton Friedman; the first lady, Christine Lagarde; or financial buffs like Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff and Donald Trump. But to get the freshest juice we knew we had to go further – much further. Rap News 9 features two VIP Internet grandees who have uploaded gigabytes of juice via the one remaining free frequency to feed a discerning and ravenous audience, thirsty for answers. Whilst these two fine folk agree with each other on many things, fortunately, there's no shortage of issues to rap-battle about. Well, time's short – so let the rhyme-rodeo begin as we blast off on a rollercoaster odyssey. It's the stupid Economy, in all its gory glory.

    Juice Rap News: written by Giordano Nanni; lyrics and performance by Hugo Farrant. Created by Farrant & Nanni in a back-yard studio in suburban Melbourne.

  26. I have to ask, have you actually asked for the real Ron Paul or Peter Joseph to rap with you guys like with the real Chomsky and Assange?

  27. I've gone back, and I'm watching all of your rap news videos from the beginning. And I've gotta say, look, you can't stop now. There's too much happening in the world. Nobody is doing what you guys did. Nobody is spreading the truth you guys spread. You had such a great thing going with Rap News, and I seriously hope you reconsider and join forces again. Ignore the number of viewers, high or low, you are doing something really important in the world today!

  28. An opinion of what I could see about this (already years ago) is that really the idea of ​​changing the type of economy as proposed by Peter is not bad actually, but by 2011 was still very incomplete the idea, Method in the style of Jaques, the content is very critical, but at least today as no longer are both movements or groups, I see that at least by zeitgeist movement, already perfected dangerous areas, such as the control of machines, Which according to them is not going to be authoritarian in what is necessary but will be qualified to provide the greatest possible aid although they still make clear that the true change and improvement of the methods to advance depend on ourselves, at least in that part are sincere.
    Pd: sorry if I had bad English and it's only a comment that could be right or not, thanks

  29. TheJuiceMedia always made sure the end of the rap tied everything up in an incredible way, and this episode is a prime example of that. – Steve

  30. There is nothing i can say that has not been said. EXCEPT:
    The amazing camel toe and the sexy robot love scene. 🙂

  31. What the true masterpiece, how can i tell you that you deserve heaven… how good you are… how intelligence ,how justice seeker you are…, thank you

  32. Guys, bring back rap news format! It's awesome, especially the peak: on NWO and a lot of other episodes. How can we patron this direction? )

  33. Until the day I die I would be an unpaid bodyguard for God of Anti-War Ron Paul and Peter Joseph, unquestionably.

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